president, who four years ago was campaigning against people who wanted to cling to their guns and religion, and now in november we saw him wanting to cling to the votes of the people who cling to their votes and their religion. we saw shootings in the midst of this campaign, don. we saw the aurora shooting, we saw the sikh temple shooting, happened smack in the middle of this campaign, and this issue not be discussed, not be debated in what was a very long and testy, heated campaign. so i don't think it's true, or right to say it's the democrats or the republicans. what we cannot have is a conversation where we're blaming each other, where the media is blaming the guns, where the gun industry is blaming the liberals, where the liberals are blaming the violent video games. we have to have a comprehensive conversation, and it be a constructive conversation. not one where people are trying to escape their responsibility and blame it on some other industry or some other faction. >> well, i think in your -- >> well, i -- >> in your response, there's a different between democratic and republican